Shamayim
I already have a Messiah.
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join:2002-09-23
2 edits | Oh yeah?
Well Cablevision charges a mere $300.00 set-up fee for residential 101/15Mbps service. What's Utopia's set-up for fee for their 100/100Mbps service?
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Edit: "Utopia charges a $65 set-up fee." Oh.
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH | Sign...
Where do I sign? 
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC |  Looking better and better
My GF is from Utah and wouldn't mind moving back. Every time I see this, it looks better and better.  |
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JSRoman
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join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
| FuzzCore website
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glinc
join:2009-04-07
New York, NY | dang
is it available in nyc? |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| said by glinc  :is it available in nyc? UTOPIA = Utah Telecommunications Open Infrastructure Agency |
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baineschile
2600
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | I thought Utah was just across the street from Williamsburg in Brooklyn? Am I wrong??? |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs:
 ·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to glinc
said by glinc :is it available in nyc? i have noticed something here when faster net speeds come up here.
why is it that when people are from nyc they think they should get fastest internet than anyone else? what makes nyc special?
Not everyone LIVES IN NYC YOU KNOW.  |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | What's their definition of "unshared"?
Unshared? BS. It's going to be shared at some point. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| price too high
why are all the 100/100M services in the U.S. well northward of $100/mo when the rest of the broadband leaders in the world are charging less than that for triple play packages?
The pricing of these tiers seems to be arbitrarily high and makes me wonder if they don't throw these plans out there just to brag about it, because they can't expect many takers at $130 or $150 a month. |
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glinc
join:2009-04-07
New York, NY | reply to hayabusa3303
Re: dang
hahaha, this is where all the business is man!! that's why we should get all the speed we can lol |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs: | LOL im sure BRONX and Queens is all business too right? NEXT. |
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Sofa King
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join:2009-03-01
Littleton, MA | reply to battleop
Re: What's their definition of "unshared"?
Shared vs unshared is marketing FUD that most people just don't get. Some talk about how their ISP offers "dedicated" without really having a clue that ALL Internet connectivity is shared at some point fairly close to their home. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs:
·QuantumVoice
·AT&T Southeast
·RoadRunner Cable
| Got to love there maintenance at least they are HONEST.
Unfortunately, both FuzeCore VoIP telephone and internet services carried over the UTOPIA network may experience an outage during this maintenance period. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause (We like making late-night calls to Dial-A-Joke while surfing the web just as much as you do!), |
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jadebangle
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join:2007-05-22
Olathe, KS
·SureWest Internet
·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast
| lafayette 50mbps is only 57.95 there is no 100mbps
if their are it would probably not cost much more like 69.99 not 147.00 but surewest charges 191.99 for 50mbps insane prices!
does utopia have a cap? they shouldn't have any cause most other isp do not such as charter 60mb/5mb,comcast 50/10mbps
147.00 is too much
I would go for 50mbps at 75.00 instead |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to Sofa King
Re: What's their definition of "unshared"?
said by Sofa King :Shared vs unshared is marketing FUD that most people just don't get. Some talk about how their ISP offers "dedicated" without really having a clue that ALL Internet connectivity is shared at some point fairly close to their home. It matters where its shared. Upgrading a peering link is many times cheaper than upgrading the last mile, and therefore its much more likely to be done. Also backbone links in general are installed to be almost the fastest available. Nobody would install a 100mbit peering link today, everyone uses 10 gigabit, but they charge on 95th percentile, which means you subscribe to a 100 or 1000 mbit speed tier, but you can definitely burst to 10gbit.
If you upgrade a core router, your not going to fill it with 100 mbit line cards for connections to your Tier 1s. Your going to fill it with 10gbit cards. |
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jadebangle
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join:2007-05-22
Olathe, KS
·SureWest Internet
·AT&T Yahoo
·Comcast
|  reply to nasadude
Re: price too high
said by nasadude :why are all the 100/100M services in the U.S. well northward of $100/mo when the rest of the broadband leaders in the world are charging less than that for triple play packages? The pricing of these tiers seems to be arbitrarily high and makes me wonder if they don't throw these plans out there just to brag about it, because they can't expect many takers at $130 or $150 a month. You're right... it can't compete with comcast on lower tier
CC 12/2 for 24.95/42.95 is much more enticing... oh wait..
they do have the upper hand at higher speed but you gotta pay by the balls :| |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
1 edit | reply to nasadude
said by nasadude :why are all the 100/100M services in the U.S. well northward of $100/mo when the rest of the broadband leaders in the world are charging less than that for triple play packages? The pricing of these tiers seems to be arbitrarily high and makes me wonder if they don't throw these plans out there just to brag about it, because they can't expect many takers at $130 or $150 a month. Try buying an unmetered 100mbit link from a Tier 1 or 2. Cogent, which is the 99 cent store of Tier 1s, will charge you $4000 per month for a 1gigabit link, thats $400 per month for 100Mbitps unmetered.
And you somehow expect to get 100mbit unlimited in a residential or consumer setting for less the 1/4 the wholesale cost?
Any residential customer who buys a 100mbit unlimited line, surely knows how to extract every cent of their purchase (multiple RAID 5 systems doing P2P). There isn't much contention you can rely on. $100-$200 per month is fine for a residential 100/100 link.
The usually the fastest backbone links you can buy are 10 gigabits anyway. If you go with an old school ILEC backbone, they will give you a 40 gigabit if you have the $.
And before you start talking about Japan, the bandwidth off the island is limited to 20mbitps. The 1 gigabit speeds you hear of are only to customers of that ISP, or only to other computers in Japan. So its basically your on a LAN with everyone else on your ISP/your ASN, it doesn't mean you get to the internet at 1 gigabit. |
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Sofa King
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join:2009-03-01
Littleton, MA
| reply to patcat88
Re: What's their definition of "unshared"?
said by patcat88 :It matters where its shared. Upgrading a peering link is many times cheaper than upgrading the last mile, and therefore its much more likely to be done. Also backbone links in general are installed to be almost the fastest available. Nobody would install a 100mbit peering link today, everyone uses 10 gigabit, but they charge on 95th percentile, which means you subscribe to a 100 or 1000 mbit speed tier, but you can definitely burst to 10gbit. If you upgrade a core router, your not going to fill it with 100 mbit line cards for connections to your Tier 1s. Your going to fill it with 10gbit cards. What you stated above is common belief, but not really accurate. The upgrade cost of "the last mile" is similar whether it is HFC, DSLAM or ONT. The concentrators have to be upgraded and node-splits are not that expensive. The costs of metro and backbone are just as expensive as it is not just the "peering interface"
The network oversubscription is incremental from the last mile, to the metro, to the core, to the peering edge, etc, etc. Each have a cost and FTTH or "dedicated" is basically marketing FUD.
The network is really shared from your PC (or even eariler). The difference with DSL or FTTH and HFC is not if it is dedicated, it is how long your "dedicated" cable is.
The Internet is shared, pure and simple. Anyone that believes in "dedicated" has no idea how the Internet works. |
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Pinbeak
@masonpud3.org
| First? Not Really
Some Washington State Public Utility Districts have been wholesaling 100mbps connections through local retailers for at least eight years. Welcome to the speed club folks. Here's a link to one in Shelton, WA: »www.adjicent.com/internet.html. Check out the prices! |
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