baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | Smile.
That picture makes me happy. |
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL | Dangit!
Note to self, don't read that while ingesting coffee.
What a joke. When they actually fix the billpay site for us former BellSouth subs so I can pay my bill online more than twice a year, then I'll thank AT&T. |
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OSUGoose
join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
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im sorry but i wouldent trust any of those doucebag exec/directors they have in the video. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC
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|  Chief Privacy Officer?
That Chief Privacy Officer looks like she needs to grow up and let the whole Anne Rice goth thing go. I don't care if that's how she wants to dress and her personal style, it just doesn't install much confidence in me that I could be one bad mood away from her doing something to harm AT&T and thus, me.
I do feel better though, they all "assure" me they take privacy VERY seriously. Whew, thank god for words rather than actions. I was starting to doubt their sincerity. |
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MyDogHsFleas
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join:2007-08-15
Austin, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T Southwest
1 edit | Homework assignment
1) read the AT&T website and their privacy policy (linked in the story)
2) read the EFF lawsuit which was recently dismissed (also linked in the story)
3) tell us specifically how what was described in the dismissed lawsuit violates the privacy policy
betcha can't. |
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nitzan
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join:2008-02-27 | LOL!
Now that's a funny one. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
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Re: Smile.
said by baineschile  :That picture makes me happy. i was hoping for a deathstar pic with a smile face on it. 
Wait a second here its turned yellow now? Im guessing from all the BS att has said in the past, it catching up to them i see.
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badtrip
East Bay
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Albany, CA | reply to Matt
Re: Chief Privacy Officer?
Because of the fact that AT&T was "funneling data wholesale to the government " they will never see another penny from me, ever. |
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Matt
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Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| said by badtrip :Because of the fact that AT&T was "funneling data wholesale to the government " they will never see another penny from me, ever. I admire your willingness to stand by your principles. Me? I don't care so much about that because in this day and age, Law Enforcement needs every advantage they can get. |
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djeremy
join:2004-07-12
San Francisco, CA
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I'm right there with you. I even moved our business T1 circuits and long distance service off of AT&T back when this whole thing leaked out. Every couple months I get a sales call from them offering some amazing deal to come back. Guess they miss the $12k a month we used to pay them. |
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81399672
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Los Angeles, CA
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said by Matt :said by badtrip :Because of the fact that AT&T was "funneling data wholesale to the government " they will never see another penny from me, ever. I admire your willingness to stand by your principles. Me? I don't care so much about that because in this day and age, Law Enforcement needs every advantage they can get. Even if it violates the law?
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i am not a lawyer but I do play one on the internet |
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SLD
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1 edit | reply to Matt
Even if it lead to losing other important Constitutionally protected rights? I mean, if you're willing to give up privacy, why not freedom of speech while you're at it? |
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Matt
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| said by SLD :Even if it lead to losing other important Constitutionally protected rights? I mean, if you're willing to give up privacy, why not freedom of speech while you're at it? I have a problem with statements that start with "even if it leads to... " When it starts leading down that path, we can address the problem. I don't see how any "constitutional rights" were violated and think linking it to the 4th amendment is a bit of a stretch.
Right now, we need to get out of the way of law enforcement and let them do their job. Whether people want to believe it or not -- and the last days bear out my point -- we have US Citizens who want to harm this country and its citizens. You can't ask our governmental agencies to protect us, but tie one hand behind their back and blindfold them. |
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Metatron2008
join:2008-09-02
Stockbridge, GA | Happy Death Star......
Err, quick photoshop. |
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SLD
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·Comcast
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Re: Chief Privacy Officer?
You've obviously never studied Constitutional Law, or truly understand the concept of the "slippery slope".
And no one is tying hands behind the back or blinding law enforcement. Just asking the to do their jobs while abiding to the Constitution. The primary document that protects *you* from tyranny. |
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badtrip
East Bay
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Albany, CA
 ·Unwired Ltd
·Comcast
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said by Matt :I admire your willingness to stand by your principles. Me? I don't care so much about that because in this day and age, Law Enforcement needs every advantage they can get. While I do agree that law enforcement needs to exploit advantages so that they can do their job as fairly and efficiently as possible.
I do not think said advantages should be gained by pursuing measures that are against the law. Further, I do not trust US law enforcement agencies in their current state to do anything fairly or efficiently. |
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badtrip
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said by Matt : You can't ask our governmental agencies to protect us, but tie one hand behind their back and blindfold them. The police's function is not to insulate the citizenry from harm (physical or otherwise); their function is social control and protection of private property. |
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Matt
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Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
1 edit | reply to SLD
said by SLD :You've obviously never studied Constitutional Law, or truly understand the concept of the "slippery slope". Your assumption is wrong. I simply don't care. For all the noise that was made about this, not one single person can point to a case where anything bad was done with the information gleaned, yet this supposedly went on for a decade or more.
On my "things to worry about meter," this ranks pretty low. It sits between whether I should have chicken or fish for lunch today and my post-shower decision of boxers or briefs. |
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Matt
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Jamestown, NC
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said by badtrip :said by Matt : You can't ask our governmental agencies to protect us, but tie one hand behind their back and blindfold them. The police's function is not to insulate the citizenry from harm (physical or otherwise); their function is social control and protection of private property. Who said anything about the police? |
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badtrip
East Bay
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Albany, CA
·Unwired Ltd
·Comcast
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said by Matt :For all the noise that was made about this, not one single person can point to a case where anything bad was done with the information gleaned, yet this supposedly went on for a decade or more. On my "things to worry about meter," this ranks pretty low. It's sits between whether I should have chicken or fish for lunch today and my post-shower decision of boxers or briefs. Wow.
No one can point to anything that has been done wrong with the data because the Bush/Obama administrations would/will not let any case regarding this matter go to court.
You have to go to court ***before*** you can determine that any laws were broken. The very fact that they do not allow this issue into the courts is very damning IMO. |
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