dirtyjeffer
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Re: [Hockey] Official 09/10 Toronto Maple Leafs Thread
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said by The Flash  :Stalberg Kadri Kessel SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD That would be an insane line... Sigh........ 
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I don't know if my perspective of Kessel from being at the game today and seeing the whole ice was different from people that watched the game on TV but I thought Kessel was a hog all game, I mean I know he really wanted to score badly but there were a handful of times where he shood have passed instead of shooting, which could have lead to a goal.
Also he wasn't paying attention when he got hit because he was probably listening to everyone cheering but I can't blame him for that, after he seemed nervous but in the 2nd and third he seemed to have woken up a little. |
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1 edit | Yeah, it'll take him time. He hasn't really had a feel of the "game puck" in like six months. And like you said, he did have something to prove, and still does.... so he might be a bit of a hog for a while.
But that's almost always the case with all pure goal scorers. When everyone expects them to pass, the shoot... He did that a bunch of times tonight, where he'd take shots from a spot that no Leaf would even dream of shooting from.
Anyway, despite all the negativity surrounding this team, there are definitely a few bright spots. First and foremost would have to be the play of 'Gus'... but next would be the play of Kaberle. He looks so very comfortable, free and not fearful of when the next hit will come. |
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pat_lc2000
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1 game, that's what it took for a leafs fan to turn on Kessel...I win my bet. |
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shaner
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Kabs was the NHL's "First Star" last week with 12 points in 4 games. |
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pat_lc2000
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Kab's being good is death for the Leafs. It just makes it more and more likely that he has to be moved this year before the deadline if they are going to rebuild at all. Which, lets face it needs to be done for the next few years. Kab's is your only asset in that. |
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dirtyjeffer
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| they could always keep Kabs and resign him to a 3-5 year contract...that is, unless the Rangers come along with a 15 year contract offer.
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dirtyjeffer
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said by shaner :Kabs was the NHL's "First Star" last week with 12 points in 4 games. he is also the league leader in points by a defenseman as well as the league leader in powerplay points.
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dirtyjeffer
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said by LeafFan67 :
I don't know if my perspective of Kessel from being at the game today and seeing the whole ice was different from people that watched the game on TV but I thought Kessel was a hog all game, I mean I know he really wanted to score badly but there were a handful of times where he shood have passed instead of shooting, which could have lead to a goal. goal scorers shoot the puck in most cases...i saw him make a few passes, but his "career" has been find an open spot, and have Savard feed you the puck...don't pass, bury it...now, he hasn't played a game in 6 months, so it is going to take a bit of time to not only get back into the groove, but also get some chemistry with his linemates...the Stajan, Blake and Kessel line was pretty quick out there last night, despite the fact they didn't score...the Leafs did get a couple of posts last night, so it was that close to a win...the Leafs, overall, have been much better since the Anaheim game, even though they have lost each game since, i believe every loss has been in OT/SO since their win.
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pat_lc2000
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the problem with resigning Kabs in the leafs aren't going to be a good time for 3-5 years. As a team it lacks assets besides him to trade to get better (especially now). They can't make the same mistake they did with Sundin. |
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| Kabby still has a no trade. There's only a short window in the summer where he can be dealt.
Burke said he would not ask him to waive his no trade during the season.
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dirtyjeffer
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said by pat_lc2000 :the problem with resigning Kabs in the leafs aren't going to be a good time for 3-5 years. As a team it lacks assets besides him to trade to get better (especially now). They can't make the same mistake they did with Sundin. what are you talking about?
the Leafs have plenty of assets...Beuchemin is signed for several years, as is Komisarek...White is still young and will be around for a while...Exelby, Finger and Van Ryn are also going to be there for a few more years...plus whoever they have in the Marlies that can brought up...then, up front, you have Bozak, Stralberg, Tlusty, Hanson and Kadri, all who will most likely play over the next few years.
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Trading Kabs would be a mistake, this team needs him so badly. |
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pat_lc2000
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Exelby is a horrible player, Van Ryn may or may not be done as a player. Finger and Komisarke are unmovable because of there respective contracts. Beuchemin may have some value but he may not.
The fact that Bozak, Stralberg, Tlusty, Hanson can't stick with the Leafs in what is clearly a write off season should be worrying, noting else. Tlusty damn close to busting. Kadri is young so he might be ok.
The Leafs are not the Flyers when they sucked it up. They lack the building blocks the Flyers had, plus the cap space for the next season. |
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| said by pat_lc2000 : Exelby is a horrible player, Van Ryn may or may not be done as a player. Finger and Komisarke are unmovable because of there respective contracts. Beuchemin may have some value but he may not. The fact that Bozak, Stralberg, Tlusty, Hanson can't stick with the Leafs in what is clearly a write off season should be worrying, noting else. Tlusty damn close to busting. Kadri is young so he might be ok. The Leafs are not the Flyers when they sucked it up. They lack the building blocks the Flyers had, plus the cap space for the next season. Give Stalberg some time, as for Tlusty busting...giving me a break, kid's only 21. |
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dirtyjeffer
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said by pat_lc2000 :
Exelby is a horrible player,
Exelby isn't horrible...he needs time to mesh with his team mates...he was brought over for his tough play in the zone...he isn't an all star defenseman, but that isn't why they brought him...he hasn't been fantastic, but give him a few more games...they have ALL been playing much better as they get used to one another...he was decent in Atlanta.
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Van Ryn may or may not be done as a player.
can't disagree with that one...great player, too injury prone...not sure what his problem is.
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Finger and Komisarke are unmovable because of there respective contracts.
Finger hasn't been too bad, and Komisarek has been getting much better...it wouldn't surprise me to see Komisarek wear the C next year (if they still haven't chosen a captain this year).
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Beuchemin may have some value but he may not.
he will get better...he is a really good defenseman...i think the problem is the Leafs were playing so poorly, that too many people where trying to do too many things...as i said, they haven't lost a game in regulation in 5...they are improving...you don't flip a switch, it takes time.
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The fact that Bozak, Stralberg, Tlusty, Hanson can't stick with the Leafs in what is clearly a write off season should be worrying, noting else. Tlusty damn close to busting. Kadri is young so he might be ok.
Tlusty is possibly a late bloomer, he is still a "kid"...Stralberg, Bozak and to a lesser degree, Hanson all played well...the problem is, you can't keep them here, and sit a player being paid $4 million/year...give them time to develop...very few players can pop out of junior or college hockey and run with the Pro's.
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The Leafs are not the Flyers when they sucked it up. They lack the building blocks the Flyers had, plus the cap space for the next season.
the Leafs have plenty of building blocks, many of which were picked up this year...i already mentioned Bozak, Gustavsson, Kadri and Hanson.
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dirtyjeffer
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i almost forgot, did you guys see Hagman get angry and drop the gloves last night??...that was great!! |
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| said by dirtyjeffer :i almost forgot, did you guys see Hagman get angry and drop the gloves last night??...that was great!! That was quite hilarious. The reply made it even better because it got right up and dropped the gloves. The other player didn't even know he was in a fight. I knew immediately something was wrong when Hagman was the one fighting. |
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said by dirtyjeffer : said by pat_lc2000 :
Beuchemin may have some value but he may not.
he will get better...he is a really good defenseman...i think the problem is the Leafs were playing so poorly, that too many people where trying to do too many things...as i said, they haven't lost a game in regulation in 5...they are improving...you don't flip a switch, it takes time. I have to disagree on that one. Beauchemin has always been paired with a top-level defensive partner (Pronger, Neidermayer) which made him look better than he is. He's not horrible, but I'd say he's not more than mediocre, perhaps average, unless you have someone really, really good pair him with.
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