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| Re: firearms You don't need a gun, you just need something that goes off and wakes you up REALLY LOUD before they get near the doors or windows. After that, a baseball bat or something blunt will do just fine just don't hit them in the head. Go for the knees and they are down for good. You have to be ready before they get in and they also can't know you are ready for them. Element of surprise is the most effective weapon in the world.
For me, I can't take another persons life. I don't think I could bring myself to live with that even if it was the worst person in the world. I would rather that terrible person suffer instead of just die because then, they might be able to feel some of the suffering and pain they have caused others.
If I could afford a home, there would be some kind of perimeter trip system, either a buried plate that goes off when x amount of weight is on it or a laser system that goes off when it is interrupted. Traffic light systems work the same way for determining how long someone has been waiting at the light so something similar must be available for this idear.
You could get bars for any windows at the back and sides of your home and any back doors, that way they can only enter from the front, you know, where the cops can see them when they finally pull up. I would think that most burglars always go through just one window if they can't get in anywhere else but the front. So you just have to be waiting in the dark and when they come through a window, wait until atleast one of them is all the way in and get them. Depending on your local laws you might be able to claim self defense and atleast no matter what, nobody had to die in your house. I think that most people move after someone dies in their house? | |
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| Re: firearms said by notworthit :
You don't need a gun, you just need something that goes off and wakes you up REALLY LOUD before they get near the doors or windows. After that, a baseball bat ...
It may seem counter-intuitive, but physical resistance produces more injuries than using a firearm. Firearms have the unique property of gaining compliance from the person they're aimed at. Baseball bats, knives, etc., invite resistance (and injuries).
And then there's the matter of whether a woman is well-suited threaten physical violence. (A firearm evens the odds.).
OTOH, you don't have to worry about your kids finding the baseball bat and playing with it. Or, thieves stealing it when you're not home. Or, shooting your spouse due to mistaken identity.
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| I would highly suggest an alarm system.
Since this is a techy area, maybe even a self install?
I installed my own alarm system and use a third party monitoring company. »www.smarthome.com
I have had someone try to break in the side door of my home twice. As soon as they opened that door the siren went off (Garage door) and they ran, both times. The cops showed up eventually but just to look at footprints (and never caught them).
Alarm systems are also good for fire and flood. In a fire, if the alarm company calls the fire department for you it may be a life saver. I had steam set off one of the heat detectors once and the phone rang in seconds, the fire department was on the line with the alarm company too.
However I do own several weapons. An M1 .32 carbine assault rifle, a few .22 rifles, and .32 revolver. I have kids, young ones, so I have trigger locks on all of them with the ammo locked up.
The only weapon I leave loaded is the M1 because of accuracy and the amount of rounds I can put into an area basically. The M1 is a carbine assault weapon so it is shorter than the basic rifle, reliable, and will certainly do some damage. But, it takes about 60 seconds to get the thing unlocked, which keeps the kids safe from unlocking it, and also allows me to use it.
So my suggestion, an alarm system.
Work on the gun slowly. I actually bought all of my guns, except the revolver, in Texas. You can buy anything there. Assault rifles put the fear of God into anyone... buy an AR15 for about $1,500 and LEARN TO USE IT. Get a flashlight mounted on it and laser sighting if you wish (do not shoot someone you know) Plus, if you are going to shoot then 1 shot 1 kill. If there are 5 guys, an AR15 will do it and leave you room to lay down some more rounds for the one hiding 
Another point. You shoot and kill someone, no matter what the circumstances, it sticks with you your entire life. | |
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| Re: firearms Agreed. Depends where you live, how scared you are, and on your aim. A lot depends on the situation. In my house a hi-powered rifle works best.
My choice is my M1 .32 Carbine. It is lightweight, great at about 20 yards, and what I love to shoot (which makes it the best weapon for me to fire as I am best at using that particular weapon). The M1 also is small enough to move around and big enough to scare the crap out of someone.
The .32 revolver I have I had some special rounds made. It was a suggestion of my Grandfather with light loads. The idea was that the rounds would hit hard enough but not travel too far.
Shotgun has so much "spray" that I would simply not like it, just a choice. If you are going to drop a human being, you need to make sure they are dropped.
A .22 will travel an amazing amount of space. I believe 2 miles if given the space. Anything is really going to have that effect. You are correct about a shotgun though, there is more "shot" but they are likely to be taken up in your walls.
I think an alarm system is the best. A gun really should just not be used unless you really are prepared to be in a gun battle. Many will shoot back especially if you put them in that kind of position where they feel they need to. | |
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| "Assault rifles put the fear of God into anyone... buy an AR15 for about $1,500 and LEARN TO USE IT."
That's some of the worst advice for someone new to a gun, EVER! I own several AR-15s and that would be the every last gun I would grab if I ever needed one. The odds of hitting your intended target in a dark home are much lower and the odds of hitting an innocent party are much higher. I've shot many things with my AR-15s, including full dumpsters which do nothing to stop the rounds.
The very best thing someone new to a gun could do is buy a pump shotgun. The odds of hitting an innocent bystander are much lower, the sound of a pump shotgun is VERY intimidating. The idea of a gun for home defense or any defense situation is to remove the threat. Once the threat is removed you are no longer justified in shooting the intruder. | |
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| Re: firearms I want to clear up my statement.
Yes, assault rifles are certainly powerful, the rounds will travel, and has its downsides... just like any gun. My overall point was that you should know how to use your weapon. I like my M1 Carbine assault rifle (short gun, about 30 rounds, rapid fire, etc.) because I can use it well. If you get a shotgun, or any gun, it sounds like when the OP has to use it that it will end up in "scared" shooting all over the place and a shotgun will go through walls or ricochet possibly injuring those who you are trying to protect.
I have been through the police academy for Pennsylvania and trained to be an officer. I have worked different units which does not matter. Military training as well. Take my advice for what it is... know what you are doing.
But if you have not owned a gun then get an alarm system. I have grown up with guns, hunted, and also been through training
on multiple situations you will get into. I personally would want to be able to fight close range, long range, a gang of 10 "thugs" with guns, or just get them to lay down. No matter what happens I want to be able to keep the family safe and also achieve the objective... taking the threat away. Full metal jacket M1 rounds are not loaded in the clip I keep for home defense... home made rounds are used with soft lead that will stop when it hits something.
But again, in this case, buy an alarm system. A screaming siren is designed to hurt your ears so bad that you just want to get out. They know when the alarm goes off that the cops are coming. They want easier targets and signs outside that says there is an alarm system will likely make them think about moving on to another house. | |
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| Re: firearms said by keyboard5684  :But again, in this case, buy an alarm system. A screaming siren is designed to hurt your ears so bad that you just want to get out. Another option is a "panic room." I read a few years ago about how people were installing steel doors at the hallway going to bedrooms. And/or a reinforced door in one bedroom. Instead of defending their property (and all the risk and responsibility that incurs), they opted for a safe(er) area to retreat and wait for the police.
That gets back to how I believe situational (shoot/don't shoot) training is important. It's amazing how many people (myself included) underestimate the effect a real-life confrontation can have on you. I guess we see it on teevee so much we think there's nothing to it. Some people go through the FATS simulator and decide that retreating to a secure room is the best choice. They don't want to go through all the emotions that occur in a real shooting scenario. It's not something you can guess what it's like, or how you'll respond (physiologically) until you go through it.
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| I see a couple of recommendations where people suggest their favorite semi-auto pistol. Glock or Beretta or Springfield or whatever. Those are great if you know how to use them...especially in the middle of the night and you're scared and half asleep.
If you do decide to arm yourself...get a revolver. Easy to use. The ultimate point-and-shoot interface. No safeties, no chambering of rounds, no messing around. You point, you shoot. Something in a .357 should do the trick. And maybe even a laser grip too. There are some 7 shot models out there. Sure, a semi-auto can hold a lot more rounds but if you can't hit the guy in the 7 shots then what makes you think 14 shots will help you. You'll just end up with more strays causing damage and accidental deaths. | |
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Columbus, OH | I understand that there is a new type of handgun, in appearance much like the usual semi-automatic, but in reality a double aciton weapon much like a revolver. Touted as safer, fewer misfires. Essentially a clip-fed revolver. | |
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| Re: firearms said by K Patterson :I understand that there is a new type of handgun, in appearance much like the usual semi-automatic, but in reality a double aciton weapon much like a revolver. Touted as safer, fewer misfires. Essentially a clip-fed revolver. If you can find a link, I'd like to learn more about it.
I agree with "swhx7" that revolvers offer a peace of mind that semi-autos don't. I always worry that the magazine's spring may have faded, and will jam. Or, that the slide accumulated smegma.
OTOH, during hot Phoenix summers, nothing beats an AMT .380 backup for concealability. A 5-shot .38 revolver is about twice as bulky.
I'd like to have the reliability of a revolver with the profile of a semi-automatic. I can't imagine how such a gun would work. Maybe some kind of chain-fed ammo belt?
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Columbus, OH | Re: firearms What I understand (not a gun guy) is that it feeds just like a semi, except that the hammer is not cocked. Pulling the trigger moves the hammer back then releases it, as opposed to a semi where the hammer is cocked. | |
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| Re: firearms said by K Patterson :What I understand (not a gun guy) is that it feeds just like a semi, except that the hammer is not cocked. Pulling the trigger moves the hammer back then releases it, as opposed to a semi where the hammer is cocked. not all semis are like that. Take a look at how a Glock works.
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2 edits | said by K Patterson :What I understand (not a gun guy) is that it feeds just like a semi, except that the hammer is not cocked. Pulling the trigger moves the hammer back then releases it, as opposed to a semi where the hammer is cocked. Double-action semi-autos have been available for over 20 years. They have the ability to be cocked and locked (like a semi-auto), or self-cocking with a longer trigger pull.
That doesn't make them more reliable. Just safer. You're not walking around with a hammer raised over a live round. The double-action component has a hammer-block that's only removed when you go through the long trigger movement to cock and fire. So, it takes more effort to fire. And, no worries about dropping the gun, and transferring shock to the cartridge's primer (when the hammer is resting on the firing pin).
They still have the reliability concerns of semi-autos. Magazine springs get weak, and don't feed correctly. Dirt/grime collects inside the slide.
If you're a cop who practices at the range once a month, it's a manageable risk. But, if the gun sits unattended for 2-3 years, there's always that worry that it will jam.
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Columbus, OH | Re: firearms Thanks (and to Lagged) as well for the education. My last practical experience was with a 1911A1, which is not exactly a modern semi! | |
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lagged
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| Re: firearms I trust my life to my 1911 every day. Nothing wrong with it at all.
"Of course the 1911 is an outdated design. It came from an era when weapons were designed to win fights, not to avoid product liability lawsuits. It came from an era where it was the norm to learn how your weapon operated and to practice that operation until it became second nature, not to design the piece to the lowest common denominator. It came from an era in which our country tried to supply its fighting men with the best tools possible, unlike today, when our fighting men and women are issued hardware that was adopted because of international deal-making or the fact that the factory is in some well-connected congressman's district. Yes, beyond any shadow of a doubt, the 1911 IS an outdated design....and that's exactly what I love about it."
Rosco S. Benson
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| Re: firearms said by lagged :I trust my life to my 1911 every day. Nothing wrong with it at all. I like the .45 round. It's low enough velocity to be a good home-defense round. (A couple sheets of drywall will slow it down.). Good knockdown power. But, I was never very good with it unless I practiced 1-2 times a month.
I carried "Officer's Model" (compact version of the 1911) for 2-3 years in the '90s. When I actively practiced I was really good with it. But, when I lost interest, I was no good. It had too much recoil for me to just pick it up and use it. For occasional use I did better with a .38 revolver or .40 Glock.
.380's a strange round. Being smaller you'd think it would be easier to shoot. But, every .380 gun I've fired (Makarov, CZ, AMT) it stings the palm of my hand like hitting a baseball bat against a metal post. Some .380 guns are good for concealability, but not fun to shoot.
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lagged
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| Re: firearms My Ruger 380 really snaps back. I think its a combination of being very light weight and having a straight blow back action.
For those concerned with over penetration, anything that will adequately penetrate a human will punch through all the walls in your house. You need to deal with it with training.
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| Re: firearms said by lagged :For those concerned with over penetration, anything that will adequately penetrate a human will punch through all the walls in your house. You need to deal with it with training. But, some ammo will penetrate walls with more power than others. For example, rifle rounds will have more residual energy than .357 handgun. A shotgun with deer slugs more than bird shot. A +P handgun ammo more than a lighter loads. Full metal jackets more than hollowpoints. Frangible ammo (like Glasser Safety Slugs or Magsafe) less than anything else.
I think the selection of caliber and type of ammo is an important factor when considering the risk to other occupants of the house (or other houses). I wouldn't want to be hit by a .45 passing through two sheets of drywall. But, if I had a choice between that and .357 Magnum, I'd take the .45 any day.
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lagged
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| Re: firearms Any effective defense round will over penetrate through house walls. Don't choose a .45 over a 357 just because it will only penetrate through 4 houses instead of 6.
Train, learn "safe" shooting allys in your house, and as with everything firearm related, know exacty wtf you are doing.
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| Re: firearms said by lagged : Don't choose a .45 over a 357 just because it will only penetrate through 4 houses instead of 6. A .45 wont penetrate 4 houses. It will barely penetrate one stucco wall.
I do agree that the best safeguard against misplaced bullets is training. But, the selection of bullets is a pragmatic factor. If you're trying to avoid misplaced bullets because of the potential harm they'll cause, then the fact that one bullet will penetrate 4 houses instead of 6 should be relevant. Two houses worth of unspent energy can make the difference between life and death.
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Wills
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| said by amigo_boy :said by lagged :I trust my life to my 1911 every day. Nothing wrong with it at all. I like the .45 round. It's low enough velocity to be a good home-defense round. (A couple sheets of drywall will slow it down.). Good knockdown power. But, I was never very good with it unless I practiced 1-2 times a month. I carried "Officer's Model" (compact version of the 1911) for 2-3 years in the '90s. When I actively practiced I was really good with it. But, when I lost interest, I was no good. It had too much recoil for me to just pick it up and use it. For occasional use I did better with a .38 revolver or .40 Glock. .380's a strange round. Being smaller you'd think it would be easier to shoot. But, every .380 gun I've fired (Makarov, CZ, AMT) it stings the palm of my hand like hitting a baseball bat against a metal post. Some .380 guns are good for concealability, but not fun to shoot. Mark Try the Bersa .380. I bought one for the wife to shoot and I love to shoot that thing. Shoot it all day...
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| said by lagged :I trust my life to my 1911 every day. Nothing wrong with it at all. "Of course the 1911 is an outdated design. It came from an era when weapons were designed to win fights, not to avoid product liability lawsuits. It came from an era where it was the norm to learn how your weapon operated and to practice that operation until it became second nature, not to design the piece to the lowest common denominator. It came from an era in which our country tried to supply its fighting men with the best tools possible, unlike today, when our fighting men and women are issued hardware that was adopted because of international deal-making or the fact that the factory is in some well-connected congressman's district. Yes, beyond any shadow of a doubt, the 1911 IS an outdated design....and that's exactly what I love about it." Rosco S. Benson I used to hate the 1911. Outdated, quirky, problematic...you name it. Until I bought one and found out how wrong I was.
My 1911 has one glaring problem. It's appetite.
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lagged
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| Not all semi's are always cocked - "single action" Some are double action only, where the trigger cocks and drops the hammer. Some are DA/SA, where the first shot can be double action and all the rest will be single action. Furthermore, there are striker fired guns, like a glock, that don't have hammers.
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Aubrey, TX | what city/state do you live in? | |
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| said by swhx7 :After a burglary, we're feeling a lot less safe in this house. I'm considering buying a gun. So I'm wondering what kind is best. Or if you think this is a bad idea, please say why, exactly. 38 Revolver. at the time you need it you don't want to risk a jammed clip.
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somewhere | I'd go with a shotgun w/rocksalt shells. | |
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| As an instructor of firearm safety, I recommend TWO things. First of all, the best home defense weapon is a 12 ga. shotgun with #6 shot. It will destroy any intruder, you don't have to hit exactly where you want, and it will not penetrate to the next room with lethal force. I would, however, suggest the 3rd or 4th shot to be 00 buck JUST in case.
The second suggestion is that you learn how to properly handle and fire ANY weapon you bring into your home. If you have children, they MUST be instructed professionaly as well. Kids who see guns in the house, and are only told to STAY AWAY from them, WILL take them out an play with them when you are away. Good luck, and feel free to PM me if you want to talk one on one about what your plan is.
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clubs: | Take a look at the 'Judge'. It shoots both .45 and .410 shotgun shells. | |
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| lagged, if you're talking about the Ruger LCP 380, it's lock-breach, not gas blowback like the Beretta 3032 Tomcat. | |
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| I'd also recommend getting some Celox and Israeli Bandages, and learn how to treat sucking chest wounds.
There is no guarantee that -you- won't get shot.
Just saying...
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swhx7
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| Thanks again to everyone above.
My thought process after reading thru has been something like this.
A shotgun would be nearly ideal except for needing both hands at all times. In case of a gunpoint situation I'd like one hand free for a phone. As between revolver and semiauto, definitely revolver for simplicity. Something medium-caliber and using easily available ammunition (a popular caliber and type of round).
There's a possible scenario of an intruder getting to a gun first (burglary in afternoon, one of us returns home before the burglar leaves) - but I guess a trigger lock would prevent the gun being used against us (?)
Also, I am slightly reassured about the prospect of the same burglars returning, because the police identified their car and towed it - they had also been reported by a neighbor when they tried to break in nearby. Hopefully the car will have led to arrests.
But there are still other factors. We've decided to move, and a good quality gun would cost $400-600, vs. maybe less for an alarm subscription for the remaining months. And I think a loud alarm noise when a window or door is opened when we're not there would scare off any intruders. This solution is not ideal (nothing is), but would also avert any accidental-shooting scenarios. We can always change our minds later. | |
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2 edits | Re: firearms said by swhx7 :but I guess a trigger lock would prevent the gun being used against us (?) Trigger locks are clumsy to deal with. You have to keep the key handy (unless there are combination locks I'm not familiar with). Burglars can easily walk off with the gun, and drill out the lock.
Something like this would be good: »www.gunvault.com/ Just push the buttons and it pops open.[1]
You can mount it in a camouflaged location, such as inside a nightstand drawer with a faux drawer front (that hinges open, giving you access to the front of the safe).
If you want to get really secure, this biometric wall safe is a good choice: »www.dutchguard.com/biometric-gun···sec.html [2]
Trigger locks are good if you have kids and no gun safe.
It's a balance between accessibility and security. If you have no kids in the house, that gives you more flexibility. you can keep the gun in an accessible but secluded location. When you leave the house, move it to a more secure location (some place burglars wouldn't look). If kids are in the house, then trigger locks make sense -- at the expense of accessibility. Or, a finger-press safe if you can afford it. Otherwise, just in-home and away concealment locations.
I'm not a big fan of sleeping with a handgun under the pillow, or sitting on the nightstand. I think it should require a little effort to get it (like operating a finger-press safe) just to make sure you're really awake. I don't know about anyone else, but I've had a couple of episodes of "night terrors" where you're convinced you're awake, but can't move, and someone's in the house. When I finally woke up it seemed like the only thing that changed was that I could move. It took a few seconds to distinguish that everything up to that point was a dream. With a handgun too easy to access I could have gone in pursuit, not fully aware.
One other thing to consider about the choice between handgun and shotgun is that a shotgun is much more lethal. I hate to suggest to anyone that they should plan to have an accident. But, often shotguns are recommended to novices because it doesn't require much skill. The downside is that the unskilled are more prone to accidents, and a shotgun can cause devastating wounds.
A shotgun's great. It's like a personal Claymore mine. But, if I were going to accidentally shoot myself in the foot, I'd rather do it with a .38. At least I'd still have a foot. The same goes for accidentally shooting a family member.
So, that's something else to consider. Shotguns are definitely easier to use, require less aiming. Perfect for a defensive strategy, or a backup to the point person using a handgun. But, accidents are much worse. "Easy" shouldn't be confused with "safer."
[1] See also »www.amazon.com/HS10036684-2-Inch···_cp_hi_1
»www.walmart.com/catalog/product.···=2221464
[2] See also »www.amazon.com/Stack-PWS-1522-Wa···_cp_hi_2
»www.buyasafe.com/InvisiVault-p/s···ault.htm
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| Sounds like you have made a thoughtful and wise decision that I hope works out well for you and your family.
A decent alarm would not simply emit an audible alarm but should automatically summons the police to your residence. (The proper breed of dog would notify you of an intruder prior to their attempting to enter your home.)
I always believed burglars primarily returned to a home if they were scared off and had not finished searching for valuables. In your scenario, I doubt they would return but really do not know enough of the details to give an opinion, nor am I an expert.
Guns are very dangerous and I cringe anytime someone talks about getting one for self defense unless they have had extensive experience with them already. But peace of mind and a sense of security is necessary for a happy environment so I do hope that everything works out well for you and your family.
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| Re: firearms said by Axekick :Sounds like you have made a thoughtful and wise decision that I hope works out well for you and your family. A decent alarm would not simply emit an audible alarm but should automatically summons the police to your residence. (The proper breed of dog would notify you of an intruder prior to their attempting to enter your home.) I always believed burglars primarily returned to a home if they were scared off and had not finished searching for valuables. In your scenario, I doubt they would return but really do not know enough of the details to give an opinion, nor am I an expert. Guns are very dangerous and I cringe anytime someone talks about getting one for self defense unless they have had extensive experience with them already. But peace of mind and a sense of security is necessary for a happy environment so I do hope that everything works out well for you and your family. Good luck. The ones that are most outspoken in their go see a professional and do not ask here seem to me to be the most dangerous. They buy the biggest or prettiest firearms. Only the best to protect themselves. They make their self defense how great firearms are be known to all. Don't listen hear soon you will be one of us and enjoy your new precious.
I know personally two people sitting in jail for self defense with the same attitude.
They collected and used only the best and highest most stopping power weapons. How great guns are. One macho guy feeling threatened by someone smaller felt threatened by the unarmed guy as he was backing off from the drawn weapon. He still shot him in the face. I protected myself I was self defense. Not good enough the unarmed guy was backing off. The gun had done its protecting duty. Now he had to use his pride and joy. He was king of the world. Finally a chance to shoot it for real. Another a sort of fight. Drew weapon on the other unarmed person and multiple rounds into everyone nearby. The more people post pictures of their precious toys and saying I am going hunting with this new fully auto rifle the more scared I get.
The ones that actually use them for self defense you never hear them talk unless you ask. Then it is not about their precious toys. Just what works.
Some seem to not be able to wait for the first time they get to really use their toy. Unlike a true hunting rifle you can use in hunting season a precious toy just sits and waits. I bet some just can not wait to use their precious toys.
Normal people have one for each to carry and maybe one for the home. You never hear them talk about how great their gun is. They practice and are safe. Thing is you would never suspect they have one. | |
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DarkSithPro
join:2005-02-12
Tempe, AZ
| If you get a Firearm then don't listen to all the peeps who say 357 magnum. That's way too much overkill for a defensive Firearm. I would suggest a 9mm, or a .40 caliber handgun, such as a Glock 19, 23, or a Springfield XD in 9mm or .40. 9mm would be best for your wife, as the kick isn't nearly bad as a .45 caliber. Also 9mm rounds are relatively cheap compared to the other rounds. Look at Federal Hydroshock, or Speer Gold-dot for some good hollow point rounds. | |
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