  Siryak
join:2005-11-26
·WildBlue
3 edits | Random lag spikes
Ok I recently bought a new HP laptop that has an Intel BGN wireless network card. At my house I have a DIR-655 and for some reason I am getting completely random lag spikes or packet loss.(Bad enough that if I am playing a game it will drop m out of the game) It doesn't matter if I am using encryption or not. Then I can take it to my parents house on a very new Linksys N router(Not sure which one. It is one of the ones without an antenna) Anyway on this router I get no packet loss at all. Also I don't get packet loss with my other devices on the DIR-655. I am not really sure what could be causing this. Also it seems to become more stable on the DIR-655 when I operate it in g mode.(All of my other devices are g devices as well) The DIR is running I think the 1.12 version of firmware. Any ideas on what I can do to fix this?
Oh and one more thing. It is not really a big deal, but on my parents router and my colleges g router I am still getting spikes but only like 20-40ms spikes.
Edit: Forgot to add that on my parents Linksys N router the pings are not going any lower than 3ms for some reason. It is not a range issue because the router is only 1 room away.(This goes for the DIR-655 as well)
Edit: The Linksys N router is a WRT160N. -- [IMG]»img218.imageshack.us/img218/2636···3dg6.gif Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit / Q6600 / 9800GT / 4GB RAM |
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  tipstir
join:2004-11-14 Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI
| said by Siryak :Ok I recently bought a new HP laptop that has an Intel BGN wireless network card. At my house I have a DIR-655 and for some reason I am getting completely random lag spikes or packet loss.(Bad enough that if I am playing a game it will drop m out of the game) It doesn't matter if I am using encryption or not. Then I can take it to my parents house on a very new Linksys N router(Not sure which one. It is one of the ones without an antenna) Anyway on this router I get no packet loss at all. Also I don't get packet loss with my other devices on the DIR-655. I am not really sure what could be causing this. Also it seems to become more stable on the DIR-655 when I operate it in g mode.(All of my other devices are g devices as well) The DIR is running I think the 1.12 version of firmware. Any ideas on what I can do to fix this? Oh and one more thing. It is not really a big deal, but on my parents router and my colleges g router I am still getting spikes but only like 20-40ms spikes. Edit: Forgot to add that on my parents Linksys N router the pings are not going any lower than 3ms for some reason. It is not a range issue because the router is only 1 room away.(This goes for the DIR-655 as well) Edit: The Linksys N router is a WRT160N. Whatever you don't download any firmware for DIR-655. Also download this free too called iSSIDer and install it on the laptop and run it. Isolated only the two routers you have DIR-655 and linksys N router. Monitor the graphical display and report back what the RSSI is showing for both. |
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  Siryak
join:2005-11-26
·WildBlue
1 edit | They are both showing to have an RSSI value ranging from -34 to -38. I also checked out the other routers around the DIR-655 and there are no channel conflicts.
Here is a ping test showing what is going on: Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1: Packets: Sent = 30, Received = 27, Lost = 3 (10% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 72ms, Average = 4ms |
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  Siryak
join:2005-11-26
·WildBlue
2 edits | Ok I have been poking around and pretty much from what I read is the DIR-655 has atrocious software. I am guessing this is one of those pesky little bugs that it has with n devices and never showed up on my old g devices.
I have found that you can get a refurbished WRT160N for under $40 and I am considering just getting rid of this thing and getting one of those. Just to be sure though is there any other router that I might want to consider other than the WRT160N?
Edit: Ok the 160N may be a problem for me because gigabit ethernet is a must. I transfer to many files from my computer to my server for a 100mb ethernet. Any recommendations for a router with n and gigabit support?(Preferably one that is not too pricey)
Edit2: I just set the DIR-655 to G only mode and it ran over 1000 pings without a single dropped packet. It is definitely an N specific issue. -- [IMG]»img218.imageshack.us/img218/2636···3dg6.gif Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit / Q6600 / 9800GT / 4GB RAM |
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  tipstir
join:2004-11-14 Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI
| said by Siryak :Ok I have been poking around and pretty much from what I read is the DIR-655 has atrocious software. I am guessing this is one of those pesky little bugs that it has with n devices and never showed up on my old g devices. I have found that you can get a refurbished WRT160N for under $40 and I am considering just getting rid of this thing and getting one of those. Just to be sure though is there any other router that I might want to consider other than the WRT160N? Edit: Ok the 160N may be a problem for me because gigabit ethernet is a must. I transfer to many files from my computer to my server for a 100mb ethernet. Any recommendations for a router with n and gigabit support?(Preferably one that is not too pricey) Edit2: I just set the DIR-655 to G only mode and it ran over 1000 pings without a single dropped packet. It is definitely an N specific issue. Yes that's why I wanted you to install iSSIDer and test it for yourself. Graphics and the meter running for 6 hours will show you how N really is. You really don't need a gig router you just buy gig switch and connect your systems to that and transfer the data. Since the internet doesn't have gig WAN yet. |
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  Siryak
join:2005-11-26
·WildBlue
| said by tipstir :said by Siryak :Ok I have been poking around and pretty much from what I read is the DIR-655 has atrocious software. I am guessing this is one of those pesky little bugs that it has with n devices and never showed up on my old g devices. I have found that you can get a refurbished WRT160N for under $40 and I am considering just getting rid of this thing and getting one of those. Just to be sure though is there any other router that I might want to consider other than the WRT160N? Edit: Ok the 160N may be a problem for me because gigabit ethernet is a must. I transfer to many files from my computer to my server for a 100mb ethernet. Any recommendations for a router with n and gigabit support?(Preferably one that is not too pricey) Edit2: I just set the DIR-655 to G only mode and it ran over 1000 pings without a single dropped packet. It is definitely an N specific issue. Yes that's why I wanted you to install iSSIDer and test it for yourself. Graphics and the meter running for 6 hours will show you how N really is. You really don't need a gig router you just buy gig switch and connect your systems to that and transfer the data. Since the internet doesn't have gig WAN yet. Yah but if you could see my desk you would know that I don't need another device on here lol. Ive got a 32" LCD TV, 20" monitor, router, and an Xbox 360 all sitting on top of my desk.
I have been researching the Linksys routers and I have found some that fit my needs(WRT310/320n), but they seem to have a lot of complaints on a heat issue. Any suggestions on a router with a gigabit switch and wireless n? -- [IMG]»img218.imageshack.us/img218/2636···3dg6.gif Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit / Q6600 / 9800GT / 4GB RAM |
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  tipstir
join:2004-11-14 Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI
2 edits | Yes heat is an issue you don't want that type of router. You would need to buy on/off power timer to fix that issue. Where when you go to bed the router would be shutdown then when you get up the router would turn back on. This would be a daily event.
Belkin N+ (266MHz/32MB 10/100/1000, Wireless N, USB Storage) doesn't over heat has gig switch ports with 832KB packet buffer. Next to that would be DIR-825 from DLINK. Frankly if you can hold on and wait for the Multi-stream N Wireless Routers to come out those are standard certified 802.11n routers. Not going to be cheap though.
Then there is the WNDR3700 everyone going crazy over from Netgear. I not going to buy that no way! Because I already have 2x bad gig switches (overheat/duff ports) and 4x bad fast switches along with a bad 802.11n router from Netgear faulty. |
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  Siryak
join:2005-11-26
·WildBlue
| said by tipstir :Yes heat is an issue you don't want that type of router. You would need to buy on/off power timer to fix that issue. Where when you go to bed the router would be shutdown then when you get up the router would turn back on. This would be a daily event. Belkin N+ doesn't over heat has gig switch ports with 832KB packet buffer. Next to that would be DIR-825 from DLINK. Frankly if you can hold on and wait for the Multi-stream N Wireless Routers to come out those are standard certified 802.11n routers. Not going to be cheap though. Any idea how much those are going to be? I can handle G for a while if there is something better right around the corner. Personally I am a Linksys fan. The overheating issue is a major concern though. I still to this day have an old WRT54G v2 set up as an access point and it is still working like a champ. I wish there was a way to fix this D-Link router because it has been great other than this issue. So far I have not found any fixes for it and I have done several hours of googling. -- [IMG]»img218.imageshack.us/img218/2636···3dg6.gif Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit / Q6600 / 9800GT / 4GB RAM |
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  tipstir
join:2004-11-14 Enfield, CT
·Cox HSI
1 edit | said by Siryak :said by tipstir :Yes heat is an issue you don't want that type of router. You would need to buy on/off power timer to fix that issue. Where when you go to bed the router would be shutdown then when you get up the router would turn back on. This would be a daily event. Belkin N+ doesn't over heat has gig switch ports with 832KB packet buffer. Next to that would be DIR-825 from DLINK. Frankly if you can hold on and wait for the Multi-stream N Wireless Routers to come out those are standard certified 802.11n routers. Not going to be cheap though. Any idea how much those are going to be? I can handle G for a while if there is something better right around the corner. Personally I am a Linksys fan. The overheating issue is a major concern though. I still to this day have an old WRT54G v2 set up as an access point and it is still working like a champ. I wish there was a way to fix this D-Link router because it has been great other than this issue. So far I have not found any fixes for it and I have done several hours of googling. Cisco Linksys home routers need to be improved. The wireless 802.11g routers are very popular next to Buffalo WHR-HP-G54. I use these and own two of them I use those for 802.11g only and have DD-WRT on them. No issues what so ever. RSSI is stronger. But those are fine for internet accessing.
Moving large data and streaming needs 802.11n or gig connection.
LINKSYS, DLINK, NETGEAR, BELKIN, TRENDNET and the clones from TP-LINK an etc.. They all of they're elite wireless 802.11n routers. As the 802.11n testing still continues with larger RAM and faster WNPU chips and larger GIG throughput on local area network.
VPN LAN WAN NAS SAN PAN
Anyway I just say stick to what works for now and wait and see what's coming around the next corner? |
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  Siryak
join:2005-11-26
·WildBlue
| You are probably right there. I probably just need to stick to using the DIR-655 on G and wait for the finalized N routers. Supposedly I think the DIR-655 may be upgradeable to the final spec, but first they are going to haft to get their firmware stable! It seems that D-Link is just screwing things up worse with every new firmware upgrade, which is why I probably will not have another D-Link router. -- [IMG]»img218.imageshack.us/img218/2636···3dg6.gif Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit / Q6600 / 9800GT / 4GB RAM |
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