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chronoss2009

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well bell ruins virgin mobile now

excellent now you can fail with this service too.
Maybe you will wait until someone pays you and then cut them off while someone attacks them.
BEll telephone making sure all criminals get what they want.

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Re: well bell ruins virgin mobile now

My thoughts exactly. Virgin Mobile has been excellent for me...I am not looking forward to see what Bell's going to do with them. My guess is they will royally screw up it's great reputation (it has already done that by buying it).

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t-mobile uk and tmobile in the usa are the same company right?

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said by hayabusa3303 See Profile :

t-mobile uk and tmobile in the usa are the same company right?
T-Mobile UK is a subsidiary of T-Mobile International, which is a subsidiary of Deutche Telekom AG(which used to be Germany's gov't telephone monopoly).

»www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/abou···company/

So, to answer your question - they are not the same company, but they are owned by the same corporate parents.
Also, I find it interesting that Vodafone(part owner of Verizon Wireless) is looking to buy T-Mobile UK. Talk about complicated competitor relationships.
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Does that mean that they will be competitors like Mercury and Ford? Perhaps more like Toyota and Lexus?
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said by rcdailey See Profile :

Does that mean that they will be competitors like Mercury and Ford? Perhaps more like Toyota and Lexus?
IF Vodafone ends up getting T-Mobile UK, I suspect that they would just merge it in with their existing Vodafone franchise in the UK. Sort of like Verizon is doing with Alltel in the U.S.

In other words, T-Mobile UK would cease to exist.
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Re: ?

I have a T-Mobile USA account, so I was curious.
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The carrier coup must be stopped

This was the most enlightening article I've read on telecommunications in a long time. I highly recommend you all read this. There are some annoying grammar mistakes and a couple of mistakenly omitted sentences, but it's still well worth the read.

Basically it says consumers can be duped into spending more on products when their options are complex. The simpler the contract, the easier it is for a consumer to make a rational choice for the cheaper and better services. Thus the carriers who offer multi year contracts with subsidized phones, and capped monthly data plans with overages, profit on consumers' confusion by doing things such as collecting overage charges that come unexpectedly to consumers.

The author's solution is to do what Amazon did with the Kindle, where the device manufacturers offer their products with wireless service already attached to the device. The terms of the service are negotiated between the device maker and carrier, keeping the purchase process much simpler for the consumer. The device makers would also be able to "squeeze carriers for costs" because carriers would have to go through them to get their service to the consumers.

Anyways, this is all speculation and we all know the carriers would never, ever, *ever* let this happen in the US. Still I thought it was a fascinating article.

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said by sonicmerlin See Profile :

Anyways, this is all speculation and we all know the carriers would never, ever, *ever* let this happen in the US.
Statement is wrong. The Kindle IS sold this way.
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People don't know how much data is on the Web sites they normally visit. They can't calculate the trade-off between the netbook discount and the monthly mobile broadband charges.
That remark from the article hits the nail on the head.

Customer's don't know how much bandwidth they use. They don't know if 5 GB is their monthly average or 200 GB. 99% of the people are clueless about that.

The Kindle pricing scheme works because the content viewable on it is tightly controlled. Users aren't Torrenting or using Hulu. They aren't FPS gaming or using VOIP. The bandwidth is used for browsing and downloading electronic books. All of that means the bandwidth used is pretty controllable and consistant. It also means some network performance stats aren't that important to the Kindle, like latency or jitter. So all the Kindle users need per month is a gigabyte or two of "best effort" service.

Once BT, Hulu, FPS games, or VOIP shows up on any meaningful percentage of Kindles, the included bandwidth isn't going to cover it and you'll see monthly charges.

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iPhone hacker reveals SMS vulnerability

The link Seems to point to a blank page.

A working link can be found here: iPhone hacker reveals SMS vulnerability - SC Magazine US

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Ukraine crooks scam $415,000 from Ky bank

»voices.washingtonpost.com/securi···_ii.html
Cyber criminals based in Ukraine stole $415,000 from the coffers of Bullitt County, Kentucky this week. The crooks were aided by more than two dozen co-conspirators in the United States, as well as a strain of malicious software capable of defeating online security measures put in place by many banks.
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The second woman I spoke with, a 27-year-old single mom, also from Florida, was not so lucky. She had more than $9,700 transferred into her checking account from Bullitt County's bank by the fraudsters on Monday. She pulled nearly all of that amount out of her bank almost immediately, wiring nearly $9,200 to the scammers in the Ukraine. Shortly after that, her bank reversed the initial $9,700 deposit at the request of Bullitt County's bank. Her bank now says she is on the hook for that amount: her checking account balance is now almost $9,000 in the red.
Don't be a victim. Read this story.
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