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10:11AM Monday Aug 25 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: legal · Fileswapping · business
Last week five game developers (Atari, Topware Interactive, Reality Pump, Techland and Codemasters) threatened some 25,000 P2P users, telling them to pay £300 ($556) if they wanted to avoid lawsuits for game piracy. The move mirrors that of the RIAA, which has used the threat of lawsuit (including a quick settlement website) to make a quick buck, with hopes press coverage of the moves would deter would-be P2P users. It hasn't worked; the debate now centering on whether game publishers should tread the same path. EA Sports boss Peter Moore (formerly of Microsoft) doesn't think so:
"I'm not a huge fan of trying to punish your consumer," says Moore. "Albeit these people have clearly stolen intellectual property, I think there are better ways of resolving this within our power as developers and publishers. "I'm not sure what they are," he adds, "other than to build game experiences that make it more difficult for there to be any value in pirating games."
That's likely code for making more games that rely heavily on an online component (though ironically, the RIAA and EA may be bumping heads on that front).

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Hazy Arc

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Settlement Website

Now THAT is freaking hilarious.

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Re: Settlement Website

yay, another wave of useless lawsuits that will clog up legal systems around the world. Just hope this happens...
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Re: Settlement Website

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Lol.

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Re: Settlement Website

EPIC FAIL!!!

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Completely agree !

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Just don't make PC Games

It's a pretty simple solution for some game companies. Don't make games for PC. I think it is stupid to drag your customers in court. But who said these companies were smart anyway?

But really, the PC gaming market is getting smaller and smaller everyday. Don't believe go in to a game store and see how many PC games are on the shelves versus the games for consoles.
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Re: Just don't make PC Games

said by kfsutops See Profile :

It's a pretty simple solution for some game companies. Don't make games for PC. I think it is stupid to drag your customers in court. But who said these companies were smart anyway?

But really, the PC gaming market is getting smaller and smaller everyday. Don't believe go in to a game store and see how many PC games are on the shelves versus the games for consoles.
That's cause you can download them.

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Re: Just don't make PC Games

Not really, its because they're just not very well made, sooo many bugs . . . as its for the pc, always can can an update, so very little effort put into getting it right the first time.

Xizer

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said by kfsutops See Profile :

It's a pretty simple solution for some game companies. Don't make games for PC. I think it is stupid to drag your customers in court. But who said these companies were smart anyway?

But really, the PC gaming market is getting smaller and smaller everyday. Don't believe go in to a game store and see how many PC games are on the shelves versus the games for consoles.
Hey look another PC gaming is dead noob.

I'm going to let you in on a little secret: the PC gaming market has actually grown in recent years.

It's also a piece of cake to pirate games that are on consoles. I know, I know. I just blew your little mind.

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Re: Just don't make PC Games

said by Xizer See Profile :

I'm going to let you in on a little secret: the PC gaming market has actually grown in recent years.

It's also a piece of cake to pirate games that are on consoles. I know, I know. I just blew your little mind.
It's dead. Get over it.
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Re: Just don't make PC Games

said by kfsutops See Profile :

said by Xizer See Profile :

I'm going to let you in on a little secret: the PC gaming market has actually grown in recent years.

It's also a piece of cake to pirate games that are on consoles. I know, I know. I just blew your little mind.
It's dead. Get over it.
AHH PC GAMING IS DEAD AHH PC GAMING IS DEAD AHH

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wait a minute what's this hundreds of upcoming game releases for the pc, that can't be right!

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said by kfsutops See Profile :

But really, the PC gaming market is getting smaller and smaller everyday. Don't believe go in to a game store and see how many PC games are on the shelves versus the games for consoles.
www.steampowered.com

Yeah, sure, PC gaming is dead...
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Re: Just don't make PC Games

You gotta be wrong about Steam. PC gaming is dead. Didnt you get the memo? Its must be figment of our imaginations.
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said by kfsutops See Profile :

It's a pretty simple solution for some game companies. Don't make games for PC. I think it is stupid to drag your customers in court. But who said these companies were smart anyway?

But really, the PC gaming market is getting smaller and smaller everyday. Don't believe go in to a game store and see how many PC games are on the shelves versus the games for consoles.
Various game setups work better on PC... some things just make more sense with a keyboard and mouse. RTS's, for one. Some game designs do not work very well on a console, and I, for one, prefer the PC for a lot of games. (Though, some are made for the console, and don't translate well to the PC without the use of a gamepad).

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August 25th, @10:47AM

Re: Just don't make PC Games

said by Necronomikro See Profile :

said by kfsutops See Profile :

It's a pretty simple solution for some game companies. Don't make games for PC. I think it is stupid to drag your customers in court. But who said these companies were smart anyway?

But really, the PC gaming market is getting smaller and smaller everyday. Don't believe go in to a game store and see how many PC games are on the shelves versus the games for consoles.
Various game setups work better on PC... some things just make more sense with a keyboard and mouse. RTS's, for one. Some game designs do not work very well on a console, and I, for one, prefer the PC for a lot of games. (Though, some are made for the console, and don't translate well to the PC without the use of a gamepad).
The whole "consoles are better than PCs" argument is beyond retarded.

All consoles are are stripped down, proprietary PCs that get released every five years.

They're not some magical device - any PC can achieve what a console can. You can easily hook up a desktop computer to a TV and an Xbox 360 controller to the PC and ooooh look, console!

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Re: Just don't make PC Games

said by Xizer See Profile :

said by Necronomikro See Profile :

said by kfsutops See Profile :

It's a pretty simple solution for some game companies. Don't make games for PC. I think it is stupid to drag your customers in court. But who said these companies were smart anyway?

But really, the PC gaming market is getting smaller and smaller everyday. Don't believe go in to a game store and see how many PC games are on the shelves versus the games for consoles.
Various game setups work better on PC... some things just make more sense with a keyboard and mouse. RTS's, for one. Some game designs do not work very well on a console, and I, for one, prefer the PC for a lot of games. (Though, some are made for the console, and don't translate well to the PC without the use of a gamepad).
The whole "consoles are better than PCs" argument is beyond retarded.

All consoles are are stripped down, proprietary PCs that get released every five years.

They're not some magical device - any PC can achieve what a console can. You can easily hook up a desktop computer to a TV and an Xbox 360 controller to the PC and ooooh look, console!
Personally,
Whether the pc gaming market is getting smaller or not, I think is is a TOTAL waste of a computer, if that's what you use it for. Not only do most games screw up the computer, which works for me as I get to fix a lot of them (cha-ching!), but, as I already said, it's stupid!!
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Re: Just don't make PC Games

said by cork1958 See Profile :

Personally,
Whether the pc gaming market is getting smaller or not, I think is is a TOTAL waste of a computer, if that's what you use it for. Not only do most games screw up the computer, which works for me as I get to fix a lot of them (cha-ching!), but, as I already said, it's stupid!!
I don't see what's so stupid about running a program on a piece of hardware you already own instead of buying a proprietary piece of hardware (a game console) just to run that same program.

Whatever floats your boat, buddy.

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said by cork1958 See Profile :

Not only do most games screw up the computer, which works for me as I get to fix a lot of them (cha-ching!), but, as I already said, it's stupid!!
If you're fixing people's computers because games screw them up, then the people you're helping are absolute, complete idiots. After about 15 years of playing computer games, I have yet to have a game screw up my computer. There are only 2 things which have screwed up my computer - porn malware, and questionable software downloads.

When I was a computer technician, I do remember a lot of people saying that "i put a game on my computer now it doesn't work", and that it was simply code for "I downloaded like, a TON of porn last night, and I clicked on amazing_sex.exe and the only thing that got screwed was my computer!"
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Re: Just don't make PC Games

said by tiger72 See Profile :

After about 15 years of playing computer games, I have yet to have a game screw up my computer.
Have you played Anarchy Online? It r-e-a-l-l-y lives up to it's name what it can do to a computer.

Then play Silent Hunter 4, and play alpha ware posing as a gold release...and watch the crashes if you're lucky, BSODs if you're not.

The AAA games shouldn't cause problem installs, but there are a few games that by definition could be considered malware in itself.
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Re: Just don't make PC Games

said by ChrisXP See Profile :

said by tiger72 See Profile :

After about 15 years of playing computer games, I have yet to have a game screw up my computer.
Have you played Anarchy Online? It r-e-a-l-l-y lives up to it's name what it can do to a computer.

Then play Silent Hunter 4, and play alpha ware posing as a gold release...and watch the crashes if you're lucky, BSODs if you're not.

The AAA games shouldn't cause problem installs, but there are a few games that by definition could be considered malware in itself.
... while you're playing. And yeah, I had friends who played AO's buggy gameplay. That said, none of that "screws up" the whole computer. It merely is buggy coding that destroys gameplay.
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Re: Just don't make PC Games

said by tiger72 See Profile :

... while you're playing. And yeah, I had friends who played AO's buggy gameplay. That said, none of that "screws up" the whole computer. It merely is buggy coding that destroys gameplay.
That game can mess up the OS. It was so buggy on install, that instead of installing in it's own folder like 99.9999999999% of the games, it decided C:\Windows was it's directory.

Have to wipe the entire drive to remove it's traces.

No game since 1983 have I had was so buggy that had done that, not even SH4 (and that game is buggier than AO -- at least it can load. SH4 could crash on load even after 5 patches).
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As others have mentioned it's easy to download games for consoles. I know 5 people that have new consoles. One of them doesn't download games for his console (he's only 8,) so new games come from his relatives. Another has a daughter that works in the gaming industry so they get all of the consoles and many of the new games that come out. The other three have multiple consoles, buy some of the games, but download most of the games from the Internet.

I know the console makers do there best to try and stop people from copying games, but it's gotten pretty easy for someone to mod a console and then download whatever game they want.

So I don't see going to a console release only being a savings over releasing games on the PC. It seems that games are just as easily ripped off for consoles as for PCs.
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The PC gaming market is not getting smaller. Now with video cards (the nVidia GeForce GTX 280) being released and people seeing what a PC can do, more people I know are MOVING from consoles to PCs. Mainly because I showed them all of their favorite games running on the PC version, and the fact that it loads faster and online is mainly free.

So PC gaming market is BIGGER
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consoles being networked nowdays, console games are starting to head down that "we'll just patch it" route too.

back when games where on ROMs and up to the PS2 it had to be right the first time on a console
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Actually PC gaming continues to grow, and surpasses Console gaming by a large margin.

»www.verticalwire.com/releases/87···s-report

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Re: Just don't make PC Games

said by NeoandGeo See Profile :

Actually PC gaming continues to grow, and surpasses Console gaming by a large margin.

»www.verticalwire.com/releases/87···s-report
That growth is for "online" pc gaming. My argument is that buying games on a disc is dead.
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IGDA?

In the United States, the Game Developers Association has been sending cease-and-desists for a long time. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they started moving forward with this type of thing also.

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Piracy

No matter how hard you try, piracy for games will exist.

Developer boycott, anyone?

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Oh Hell No

I pay for my games. There are games that you just go out and buy right off the bat (i.e. any HL sequel). I however can certainly understand why there's so much P2P traffic on games. You have people that just don't want to pay of course, people who want to play before paying & the people who will not pay before playing more than a demo has to offer. With the absolute BULL**** that is passing for games these days, it's no wonder.

No matter how many P2P users they threaten, they will never hurt the scene even marginally...they will however be doing a good job of alienating their fan base.

I'm keeping a list of of the companies pulling this stunt.
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Re: Oh Hell No

said by winsyrstrife See Profile :

I, however, can certainly understand why there's so much P2P traffic on games. You have people that just don't want to pay of course, people who want to play before paying & the people who will not pay before playing more than a demo has to offer. With the absolute BULL**** that is passing for games these days, it's no wonder.
You also forgot the fact that DRM included with some of the games is so draconian that it can screw up your machine worse than a virus/rootkit/malware/spyware. I love it how some developers tout that by buying legit software you can have a peace of mind that your computer will be virus-free, yet with many games out today that is so not the case. By employing such kind of DRM, gaming companies are alienating those who are actually willing to buy their games. Why bother paying for catching a virus when at the very worst, you can take your chances and get one for free . And at best case, the bootleg will be cleaner than the legit version.
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Re: Oh Hell No

Good point. I dunno why I omitted that part considering I just had to fix someone's machine this week because of Sony's rootkit BS.

Selective memory blotting out the unpleasantness, I guess.

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Another perspective:

Let's see... buy a game with restrictions and damaging/non-removable Copy Protection - or - download a stripped version from the web without all the BS.

Many times, more than not, people don't want a CP scheme killing parts of their computer - Starforce anyone?
Me? I prefer that when I uninstall a game, it takes the CP with it - SecuROM ring a bell?

Yeah yeah, I have tools to get rid of the crap, but the point is, why should I have to?

Developers keep adding more horseshit to the game and making it less and less attractive to us to pay good money and blame poor or lower sales on P2P.

Ya got to insert the CD/DVD, go online and verify that you are the legal owner, sign in, give a DNA sample, pee in a cup, bend over and get cavity searched *THEN* the game might start - EVERY TIME?
Yeah, I want some of that!
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Gaming Frustrations

I'm not a huge gaming freak but every now and then I'll buy a PC game for fun. Shell out the 40-50 dollars for it, then find out the sequel is only for the Console. I'm not about to shell out another 400.00 for a console so I've got a drawer full of PC games that "IF" a PC sequel were offered I'd buy it. Hell, I have upgraded my PC based on gaming requirements but without games to play (that I enjoy) there's no need to upgrade or buy the next game. The Game developers are missing the boat by concentrating so much on Console based games. I may be in the minority, after all, I'm not a kid any longer, but I do have the expendable dollars to buy a game.
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Re: Gaming Frustrations

Sequel is only for the console? What games are you talking about? Maybe you should stop buying console ports for the pc then. PC based games have sequels on the PC....
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Re: Gaming Frustrations

Call of Duty 3 for one

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said by ender7074 See Profile :

Sequel is only for the console? What games are you talking about? Maybe you should stop buying console ports for the pc then. PC based games have sequels on the PC....
Civilization
Elder Scrolls

Just to name two.

To put in my piece...I don't like PC gaming. It just doesn't feel right to me. Even if I hook up my PC to output to the TV and use a 360/PS3 controller, the feel is off. I can't explain it.

I think for me it's the fact that PC games are at the mercy of your hardware configuration. The developers are making games that require Alienware-ish PCs which most people don't and won't have. I should be able to fire up my regular laptop and play just about any PC game but I can't. My Dual Core Centrino struggled with Final Fantasy XI - come on now.

Plus there's the memory thing, the video card thing, the controller thing, the keyboard thing, the monitor thing...too much to have to think about, compared to a console which likely comes with all you need to get up and game. Plus you know the games will all work for the console. No having to upgrade a video card because it's integrated instead of sole memory.
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Re: Gaming Frustrations

said by MisterMarcus See Profile :

said by ender7074 See Profile :

Sequel is only for the console? What games are you talking about? Maybe you should stop buying console ports for the pc then. PC based games have sequels on the PC....
Civilization
Elder Scrolls
Civilization revolution for the console is really a console-unique game and shouldn't be considered a 'sequel'.

It was built from the ground up to be played with a controller, not a keyboard/mouse.

Morrowind and Oblivion are out for both PC and console...

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Re: Gaming Frustrations

said by Necronomikro See Profile :

said by MisterMarcus See Profile :

said by ender7074 See Profile :

Sequel is only for the console? What games are you talking about? Maybe you should stop buying console ports for the pc then. PC based games have sequels on the PC....
Civilization
Elder Scrolls
Civilization revolution for the console is really a console-unique game and shouldn't be considered a 'sequel'.

It was built from the ground up to be played with a controller, not a keyboard/mouse.

Morrowind and Oblivion are out for both PC and console...
Civ: that's fine, but that's not the post said. It said "PC based games have sequels on the PC" - I'm simply naming examples that do not. Civ Revolution is not on PC to my knowledge.

Elder Scrolls: Yeah, now. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Elder Scrolls originate on PC? And...weren't it's sequels ORIGINALLY on console (Xbox) only? It wasn't until much later that the sequels got ported to PC.
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August 25th, @11:26AM

Bleh

I've worked years for both game developers and publishers (work for a dev/pub now) and while there are a good number of pirates who do so just because they're cheap bastards who don't want to pay for their product, there are plenty with legitimate reasons like in the case of anti-copy nonsense and strict attempts at limitations of fair use which ends up being backlash. To a point where just to exercise their fair use, people will even buy the game then download a pirated version just to enjoy their game DRM or anti-copy free.

It isn't necessarily a black-and-white issue. Being both a gamer and someone who works for a developer-publisher, I can understand both sides (besides the limitations attempted by the gaming industry, and people who just want free shit).
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Re: Bleh

software will never be a B&W issue as long as said intrusive DRM exists. people have a right to not want rootkits and such, they have a right to use virtual drive programs which btw can be used for non piracy reasons. however game DRM wont even install on some systems with a virtual drive because to DRM makers who only see things in black, virtual drive=piracy.
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I just hate it when I donwnload the game from a store like The Pirate Bay, and they won't let me return it if it sucks.
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Re: Bleh

The Pirate Bay for as far as I know is not a store lol.

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Re: Bleh

said by Smith6612 See Profile :

The Pirate Bay for as far as I know is not a store lol.
Sarcasm
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Pirates game better than playing the demo

I would prefer to download a pirated game so I can see "truly" what the game is like. If I like it enough then I will purchase for the online component. Downloading a demo with one race track or map is not a true test of the game. I think these game publishers are trying to stop the bad press "word of mouth" from getting around that a particular game sucks. Let's say you own Madden 2k7 but not sure if 2k8 is worth upgrading. Grab pirated copy to check it out, and you will see its not worth it. I will be downloading Far Cry 2 and if it is what they say it will be, I will gladly purchase.
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Waste of Money

I bet about 90 percent of pirater's would of been to cheap to buy the game at 50 or 60 dollars in the first place. And I doubt this would deter the other 10 percent.

Pirating is rampant because its free, but you charge 50 bux for the game, you just aren't going to have the same numbers as you were when pirating.

so you're basically just busting people that would of never shelled out for it in the first place.

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Mine

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Re: Mine

said by n2jtx See Profile :

"All Your Bases are Mine"
Actually, it's "ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US!"
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Re: Mine

said by Pirate515 See Profile :

said by n2jtx See Profile :

"All Your Bases are Mine"
Actually, it's "ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US!"
It's actually All Your Base Are Belong To Us!

It was from a Sega Genesis* game called Zero Wing. Here is the
opening sequence from it:

*It was called Genesis in the US. The game originated in
Europe, where the console was known as Mega Drive.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf9Y--_aY70


Properly translated, it should read "We, CATS, have taken over all
your bases."
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PC Gaming

1.
People that say PC gaming is dead or dieing aren't PC gamers. There are many many reasons to play games on the PC instead of a counsel. Your get everything a counsel overs and much much more.

In GamePro once, they compared the graphics of a PS, Xbox, and a PC. PC blew the others out of the water. You could see graphics on the PC that the counsel's didn't even have, far off trees, shadows, and it was all crisp and clear. All the Display settings were maxed on the 3.

Keyboards and mice make gaming easier once you get used to it. You have so few button options on a counsel, about 17 for a play station 2 controller. (Counting the analog button, and R3/L3), but with a PC you have tons (Not going to count by keyboard). You can set up hotkeys and do things quicker. And a mouse is faster then a controller. A mouse moves as fast as you do, but a controller moves as fast as what the sensitivity is set at, so you have less control.

Why buy a counsel, when you can just upgrade your computer to handle games, instead of wasting $400 on a box that you can only use for games and movies, you can upgrade your comp that will make everything you do faster.

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I don't get why they put protection on games and movies. It only annoys the people who payed for a legit copy. The pirates will get a stripped version. Does the protection even do anything? Obviously not. No matter what, it will eventually be cracked. You might stop rookie copiers for a little bit until they find a solution on the Internet but thats all.

Programs like DVD Decrypter will strip a DVD of its protection when you put it in the tray. Wow that was hard.

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Protection is just an annoyance to the people who actually pay for the product.
hacker90

join:2005-09-01
Winnebago, IL
·Mediacom

Re: PC Gaming

said by HackedServer See Profile :

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I don't get why they put protection on games and movies. It only annoys the people who payed for a legit copy. The pirates will get a stripped version. Does the protection even do anything? Obviously not. No matter what, it will eventually be cracked. You might stop rookie copiers for a little bit until they find a solution on the Internet but thats all.

Programs like DVD Decrypter will strip a DVD of its protection when you put it in the tray. Wow that was hard.

Protection is just an annoyance to the people who actually pay for the product.
So if no games had Cd checks or protection on them. Wouldn't that give no incentive to a pirate to purchase the game? Take Supreme Commander for instance. That game had a protection scheme for a while, until a official patch removed it. That essentially allowed anyone to play the game without needing a crack. The pirated copies have no incentive to go out and get a legit copy, why? Simple, they either will play the skirmish or use the LAN with friends. That in itself is a lost sale.

I can't remember the last time, I have seen anyone in games I have played complain about DRM. I myself had a minor issue back in 05 with Battlefield Vietnam, but a quick XP hotfix solved that. I had Starforce installed on this PC, all that "bad" stuff. Still able to burn, still able to do my usual crap. Still haven't seen "Sorry can't install because of Daemon tools etc.."

Quit making excuses to hide your guilt of stealing a game. Either purchase it and play it, or don't play it at all. How simple can it get?
hurfy
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join:2002-08-06
Spokane, WA

Re: PC Gaming

If i have played Roller coaster tycoon 3 recently i can't get Flatout 2 to find the CD in drive without trying several (min 3 tries) After moving RCT3 to my other computer and cleaning up the garbage Flatout loads every time using the same CD.

The DRM schemes don't seem to play nice together. If you only play one games per PC or one developer or something perhaps.

Oh, Starforce did take out my DVD writer on the other computer, I nev