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join:2004-06-01
IA | TiVo sucks! I just wish TiVO would die. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by Anonymous  :I just wish TiVO would die. you and me both!
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·Cox HSI
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| I love how companies come up with damage claims.... I'd would be interesting to see the math behind how the Tivo lawyers figured the sum of $220 million in damages occurred while the verdict has been on appeal... especially since the Tivo lawyers even admitted that Dish changed their software to avoid infringing apon the patent.... so if the patent has NOT been infringed apon during this time, I wonder how they can claim damages.
My guess is they simply make them up.... with woulda, coulda, shoulda type arguments. | |
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | Re: I love how companies come up with damage claims.... Dish even bought Replaytv so they own a patent to do DVR. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: I love how companies come up with damage claims.... Actually, it was DirecTV that bought ReplayTV, not Dish Network... | |
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| jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | They use the same formula we use in IT for ROI calculations.  | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | However it turns out.......... They will have to pry my DVR out of my cold dead hands. 
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| openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL | Re: However it turns out.......... No prying required, just a simple software disable should be sufficient. Unless you roll your own DVR, you're at the mercy of your provider. | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Re: However it turns out.......... Yes I know, however I will just get myself a video capture card for the computer.
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join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL | Re: However it turns out.......... You had better be happy with OTA broadcasts, because it's becoming more and more challenging to "capture" anything worthwhile. | |
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iohuandiometoanu
@comcast.net
| Dish SUCKS! Dish is the company that sucks. Tivo invented DV recording for the masses and they should be revered for bringing something fresh to the consumer market.
Dish equipment is hard t install, difficult to use and way beyond the simple idea of watching TV.
I'm glad that tivo and DTV are talking again and making boxes. I still own two samsung 80-hour DTV/Tivos and they're teriffic!
Dish is dying and I will be the first to dance on their grave when they do (die). | |
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join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
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·Mediacom
| Re: Dish SUCKS! said by iohuandiometoanu :
Dish equipment is hard t install, difficult to use and way beyond the simple idea of watching TV. It took my installer all of about 40 minutes to mount two antennas, trench cable, connect my DVR, and activate my box. Hardly difficult or beyond the simple idea of watching TV.said by iohuandiometoanu :
Dish is dying and I will be the first to dance on their grave when they do (die). And that's about as ignorant comment as you can make. I definitely would not envy paying your DirecTV bill should Dish falter. | |
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| EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | TiVo may have come up with a good idea once, but now their massive patent library is preventing anyone else from innovating in the field, since there's a good chance they'll inadvertently step on TiVo's toes in doing anything. | |
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belawrence
It's All About The Games
join:2000-08-06
Santee, CA
·Cox HSI
| said by iohuandiometoanu :
Dish is the company that sucks. Tivo invented DV recording for the masses and they should be revered for bringing something fresh to the consumer market.
Actually, I believe ReplayTV beat them to the market by about a month. Even still, I remember people using the very early ATI All In Wonder cards to record and "trick play" TV long before either Tivo or Replay.
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Hook_Texas
Premium
join:2002-04-08
Austin, TX
| said by iohuandiometoanu :
... difficult to use and way beyond the simple idea of watching TV.
Obviously someone that has not used a Dish DVR. Try using one or reading a review, they are very good units. Many have said they are the best out there. | |
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MooJohn
join:2005-12-18
Milledgeville, GA
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| It's ok for automakers, not for anyone else I find it interesting that automakers routinely buy each other's cars, dissect them, and incorporate what they find into their own vehicles. They're free to copy the features of another maker as long as they find a different way to accomplish it. Did the first car with an electric throttle instead of a cable prevent others from adopting the same technique? Of course not.
That idea doesn't extend to the fuzzy realm of "idea patents." TiVo rolled out their product and that somehow precludes anyone else from offering a product that records to a hard drive, offers automatic recording of certain shows, or anything else their product did. Who would have thought of a "pause" function that resumed play when you un-paused!? At least Dish didn't include those stupid sound effects with each button press!
We don't have one brand of TV, computer, or automobile, so why are we being forced to have only TiVo? As long as they didn't steal the technology required to provide their features, Dish should be free to offer the same abilities in their product.
Why doesn't the first search engine have automatic "dibs" and outlaw every other search engine that came later? After all, they "invented" the idea of searching the WWW and anyone else's attempts still infringe on their idea even if not on their actual work.
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | Madness Tivo is just mad because dish have there own software division. | |
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JonHB
join:2007-09-18
Huntington Beach, CA
| Tivo is the best DVR you can get - no comparison Wow - amazing at the number of Tivo haters here.
When you compare the usability of a Tivo to any of the cable company DVR's, it is night and day. I've had DTV, Time Warner and Verizon FIOS DVR's and they are all crap. If you've ever compared any of them to Tivo, you would know. | |
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| EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: Tivo is the best DVR you can get - no comparison The question is, do other DVRs suck because TiVo's patent portfolio prevents other companies from improving theirs, because they have to use complicated and less usable workarounds?
Then again, my guess is that at least Verizon's DVRs suck because of general incompetence on the part of Motorola, as I had similar issues with both a VZ DVR and a Comcast DVR that were both from Motorola (looked almost identical on the outside too) | |
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join:2007-09-18
Huntington Beach, CA
| Re: Tivo is the best DVR you can get - no comparison I hear you - yes the cable co DVR's usually have some of the same basic features, but in my opinion, Tivo implements those same feature much better. Mostly because the cable co DVR's are so slow and awkward to accomplish the same task.
Other things that set Tivo's apart and may not matter for many people are the ability to use "Tivo to Go" and download your recorded content onto a computer or mobile device for viewing away from your Tivo box. Also the ability to subscribe to webcast downloads, use web based movie PPV, multi-room viewing, web scheduling, photo/movie/music viewer for your own content, expandable recording capacity, etc. etc.
For me, the Tivo is much easier to use than the cable co DVR's and all the other benefits are a bonus. | |
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JoeG4
join:2001-12-16
945941 | Re: Tivo is the best DVR you can get - no comparison I like the Dish DVRs, they're pretty simple, linux based goodies. XD | |
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CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County | Re: love my dish dvr My Dish DVR is great - 2 guys installed it in less than 1 hour (including new install of the dish) - the program guide is 4,000 times better than TW's. Not seen Tivo - but I have no want to see it - the Dish DVR is great. | |
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